From: Brian Holtz []
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 6:36 AM
Subject: RE: A question re: Turkel response
According to Paul, Jesus was "the firstborn of every creature" and that by Jesus "all things were created". How could a Galilean preacher born only a few decades before Paul wrote this letter be described in such a way? 
Paul's ability to be confused/metaphorical/irrational/inconsistent/poetic/vague does not make the evidence for Jesus' historicity disappear. If we discovered some new epistle that made odd statements about Paul, would you suddenly doubt Paul's historicity?
 What problems do you see created by the idea that early Christianity's Christ existed only in a platonic, multi-leveled spirit world? 
Pretty much the same problems seen by the professional secular scholarly consensus. I don't debate Jesus ahistoricity for the same reason I don't debate Creationism.