I wonder if you have the courage to meet my challenge. Comments have been added at http://www.theism.net/authors/zjordan/emailbag_files/holzmail.htm
Not surprizing that you are scurrying away from this one. [..] Quit beating around the bush and dancing in circles.

Interesting:

I rebutted your every sentence offered in criticism of my assertions.
I pointed out to you that three particular points by me are, contrary to your assertion, not addressed in your oeuvre, and you again ignored them.
I referred you to arguments against the resurrection that I see nowhere addressed in your oeuvre, and you ignored them.
I answered your "Where did I claim that?" and "What part of that is unclear?" questions with rejoinders that you self-servingly decided to edit out of our exchange.
You ignored most of my direct questions about your conversion.

If either of us is "scurrying away", "beating around the bush", or "dancing in circles", it's obvious who that is. :-) However, your overall record of quoting and linking to your opponents' material is exemplary by the usual (i.e. low) standards of Christian apologists on the Web, and lends support to your claim to be a freethinker.

BH: you may not be a good example of "an atheist having long-term experience with both side's arguments who later converted to Christianity purely because of comparing those arguments.
GZJ: For the sake of argument let us consider I was an extremely poorly learned atheist with an I.Q. of about 70. After converting, my ignorance quantum leaped and my I.Q dropped to 20. Now, about that resurrection thingy. . .

Fine, I'll not bother you with further questions about your experience as an atheist.

BH: I'm sorry if these questions about your witness make you uncomfortable.
GZJ: You, Sir, do not have the power to make me uncomfortable

I'm glad to hear that the antecedent of my conditional statement is not satisfied.

BH: I'm trying to resist debating you, because I want to focus my critiques against the best Christian arguments extant, and as good as you may think yours are, they aren't the best. :-) I agree with your Rules 1 and 5, but (as demonstrated above) your ability to apply Rules 2 and 3 is questionable. And of course, you might consider my stated purpose to be a violation of Rule 4.
GZJ: Indeed, it is clear that you avoid debating the issue of Christ's resurrection.

On the contrary, the historicity of the resurrection is central to these parts of my polemical oeuvre:

Arguments Against Christianity (from my book)
debate with Turkel on the Trilemma
debate with Turkel on the Impossible Faith

GZJ: No, you post the full text at Your site,

So do you selectively edit your "debates" too, or only email exchanges?

ideally at the link I provided above to your initial G. Jordan post. Anything I post concerning our interactions will indeed be linked from the page you already reference.

GZJ: Any other mail will be deleted. If you debate and follow MY rules not yours, you will be added to the debates section. My rules are fair, healthy, and maintain focus. [..] Also, I have changed my mind. Let us have a debate. You have been added at http://www.theism.net/authors/zjordan/debates_files/debates.htm. From here on we shall work from the debate pages. Is it "fair" that I would have to read your polemical oeuvre in its "entirety" to "avoid repeating issues already debated", but you can ignore mine? I think my record speaks eloquently to the norms I follow in debating theology. I trust that you, as a fellow libertarian, will forgive me if I don't trade away my freedom to follow my (I think exemplary) polemical norms for the honor of being listed on your debates page. If you want debate from me, the easiest way to get it is to publicly and substantively question me or something I've written. A guaranteed way to end debate with me is to offer no substantive reply to my rebuttals of such criticism or answers to such questions.

GZJ: Do you agree that (NT) scholars are individuals whose works are read, used, and learned from by academia, not pop readership? Also, they are fully studied in the archaeology, languages, anthropology, and history pertaining to New Testament times?

NT scholars indeed are characterized much more by their academic work than by their popularizations, and they usually have the expertise you cite (although "fully studied" implies some unspecified standard of fullness). I respect (and often cite) the secular peer-reviewed professional scholarly consensus, especially as reflected in reference texts. And I reserve the right not to demonstrate the truth of propositions that are asserted as uncontroversial by that scholarly consensus.

The historical scholarly consensus indeed agrees with your proposition A that Jesus existed, and even goes beyond your proposition B to assert that he not only "faced" crucifixion but died thereby. However, your C "there is no body" goes somewhat beyond the consensus in its present-tense implication that in the days and weeks after Easter there was an actual missing-body problem noted by the relevant disciples. (I think there's a fair probability that crucial disciples so noted such a problem, but that probability simply does not rise to the level of confidence historians have in Jesus' existence and death by crucifixion.) Similarly, your D "disciples saw something" again exceeds what scholars would agree is the uncontroversial consensus -- that, at minimum, some disciples had powerful post-crucifixion experiences that came to be interpreted as manifestations and even visions of a risen Jesus.