From: Brian Holtz [brian@holtz.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 8:47 AM To: alt.atheism.moderated Subject: Re: Science & atheism are cultures. "Paul Holbach" wrote: > a quotation from "On the > Plurality of Worlds" by David Lewis in the WWW: > "There can be nothing much [at a world]: just some homogeneous > unoccupied spacetime, or maybe only a single point of it. But nothing > much is still something, and there isn't a world at which there's > nothing at all." (p.73) This sounds like nothing more than a stipulation about the term 'world'. How would this follow from any non-question-begging definition of 'world'? > does it also > involve the absence of any energetic state of the quantum vacuum Certainly. Our actual physics is hardly necessary physics, and philosophers rightly have no qualms about considering it contingent. > Or is spacetime just a cognitive framework, a Kantian form of > apprehension, which is transcendentally there prior to all possible > perception? No, spacetime is a physical thing, and not just a cognitive framework. > the world IS the entirety > of being itself and, therefore, if all beings cease to exist, then the > world itself must necessarily cease to exist, too. A "world" is specified by a description, and I don't see why the description can't be empty. Note that, by the identity of indiscernables, there can only be one empty world; i.e. all purportedly distinct empty worlds in fact have the same identity. > The empty set can > exist only by virtue of its being irreal, ie of its being nothing but > an abstract concept. But an ontological world is more than a > semiotically immanent entity since it possesses trans-semiotic, > mind-independent reality. This sounds a little too much like Continental philosophy for me to consider it meaningful. :-) -- brian@holtz.org http://humanknowledge.net